{"id":73882,"date":"2025-10-15T16:38:52","date_gmt":"2025-10-15T14:38:52","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/viettudomunich.org\/?p=73882"},"modified":"2025-10-17T13:25:18","modified_gmt":"2025-10-17T13:25:18","slug":"ocean-vuong-hoa-ky-la-mot-ao-anh","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/viet-europe.org\/?p=73882","title":{"rendered":"OCEAN V\u01af\u01a0NG \u2013 Hoa K\u1ef3 l\u00e0 m\u1ed9t \u1ea3o \u1ea3nh"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>[et_pb_section fb_built=&#8221;1&#8243; admin_label=&#8221;section&#8221; _builder_version=&#8221;3.0.47&#8243;][et_pb_row admin_label=&#8221;row&#8221; _builder_version=&#8221;3.0.48&#8243; background_size=&#8221;initial&#8221; background_position=&#8221;top_left&#8221; background_repeat=&#8221;repeat&#8221;][et_pb_column type=&#8221;4_4&#8243; _builder_version=&#8221;3.0.47&#8243; parallax=&#8221;off&#8221; parallax_method=&#8221;on&#8221;][et_pb_text admin_label=&#8221;Text&#8221; _builder_version=&#8221;3.6&#8243; background_size=&#8221;initial&#8221; background_position=&#8221;top_left&#8221; background_repeat=&#8221;repeat&#8221;]<\/p>\n<p><strong><em>Yasmine M\u2019Barek ph\u1ecfng v\u1ea5n Ocean Vuong, Die ZEIT ng\u00e0y 13.10.2025<br \/> <\/em><\/strong><em>Bi\u00ean d\u1ecbch:<strong> Nguy\u1ec5n Nh\u1eadt L\u1ec7<\/strong><\/em><\/p>\n<p><strong><em>\u00a0<\/em><\/strong><\/p>\n<p><em>\u1ede Hoa K\u1ef3 c\u00f3 quan ni\u1ec7m ph\u1ed5 bi\u1ebfn l\u00e0: Ai ngh\u00e8o th\u00ec \u0111\u00f3 l\u00e0 l\u1ed7i c\u1ee7a h\u1ecd. Nh\u00e0 v\u0103n Ocean Vuong \u0111\u00e3 t\u1eebng s\u1ed1ng v\u00f4 gia c\u01b0. Trong b\u00e0i ph\u1ecfng v\u1ea5n, \u00f4ng n\u00f3i v\u1ec1 t\u00ecnh \u0111o\u00e0n k\u1ebft v\u00e0 nh\u1eefng \u01b0\u1edbc m\u01a1.<\/em><span style=\"font-size: 17px;\">\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p>[\/et_pb_text][\/et_pb_column][\/et_pb_row][et_pb_row _builder_version=&quot;3.6&quot;][et_pb_column type=&quot;4_4&quot; _builder_version=&quot;3.6&quot; parallax=&quot;off&quot; parallax_method=&quot;on&quot;][et_pb_image align=&quot;center&quot; max_width=&quot;80%&quot; src=&quot;https:\/\/viet-europe.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/10\/148.jpg&quot; _builder_version=&quot;3.6&quot;][\/et_pb_image][\/et_pb_column][\/et_pb_row][et_pb_row _builder_version=&quot;3.6&quot;][et_pb_column type=&quot;4_4&quot; _builder_version=&quot;3.6&quot; parallax=&quot;off&quot; parallax_method=&quot;on&quot;][et_pb_text _builder_version=&quot;3.6&quot;]<\/p>\n<p><em>Nh\u00e0 v\u0103n\u00a0<strong>Ocean Vuong<\/strong>\u00a0\u0111ang s\u1ed1ng trong gi\u1ea5c m\u01a1 M\u1ef9: N\u0103m 1990, m\u1eb9 \u00f4ng \u0111\u00e3 c\u00f9ng V\u01b0\u01a1ng, \u0111\u1ee9a con trai hai tu\u1ed5i ch\u1ea1y tr\u1ed1n kh\u1ecfi Vi\u1ec7t Nam \u0111\u1ec3 \u0111\u1ebfn M\u1ef9. M\u00e3i \u0111\u1ebfn khi l\u1edbn tu\u1ed5i, \u00f4ng m\u1edbi h\u1ecdc \u0111\u1ecdc v\u00e0 vi\u1ebft, v\u00e0 t\u1eebng l\u00e0m vi\u1ec7c v\u1eb7t \u1edf m\u1ed9t n\u00f4ng tr\u1ea1i thu\u1ed1c l\u00e1. Nh\u01b0ng sau \u0111\u00f3, \u00f4ng tr\u1edf th\u00e0nh m\u1ed9t ng\u00f4i sao to\u00e0n c\u1ea7u. N\u0103m 2019, cu\u1ed1n ti\u1ec3u thuy\u1ebft \u0111\u1ea7u tay c\u1ee7a Vuong, \u201cTr\u00ean m\u1eb7t \u0111\u1ea5t, ta t\u1ecfa s\u00e1ng ng\u1eafn ng\u1ee7i\u201d, \u0111\u00e3 b\u00e1n \u0111\u01b0\u1ee3c h\u01a1n m\u1ed9t tri\u1ec7u b\u1ea3n. Cu\u1ed1n ti\u1ec3u thuy\u1ebft th\u1ee9 hai c\u1ee7a \u00f4ng, xu\u1ea5t b\u1ea3n n\u0103m nay, \u201cHo\u00e0ng \u0111\u1ebf c\u1ee7a ni\u1ec1m vui\u201d (Der Kaiser der Freude), c\u0169ng k\u1ec3 v\u1ec1 cu\u1ed9c \u0111\u1eddi \u00f4ng v\u00e0 th\u1ebf gi\u1edbi c\u1ee7a t\u1ea7ng l\u1edbp lao \u0111\u1ed9ng M\u1ef9. Ch\u00fang t\u00f4i g\u1eb7p \u00f4ng \u1edf Berlin, v\u00e0 khi \u00f4ng n\u00f3i chuy\u1ec7n, \u00f4ng tr\u00f4ng d\u1ecbu hi\u1ec1n mong manh nh\u01b0 nh\u1eefng kho\u1ea3nh kh\u1eafc ng\u1eafn ng\u1ee7i tuy\u1ec7t \u0111\u1eb9p trong c\u00e1c c\u00e2u chuy\u1ec7n c\u1ee7a \u00f4ng \u2013 v\u00e0 nh\u01b0 th\u1ec3 \u0111\u00e3 s\u1eb5n s\u00e0ng cho vi\u1ec7c m\u1ecdi th\u1ee9 c\u00f3 th\u1ec3 thay \u0111\u1ed5i r\u1ea5t nhanh ch\u00f3ng.<\/em><\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p><strong>DIE ZEIT:<\/strong>\u00a0<strong><em>T\u1ea5t c\u1ea3 c\u00e1c t\u00e1c ph\u1ea9m c\u1ee7a \u00f4ng \u0111\u1ec1u l\u00e0 t\u1ef1 truy\u1ec7n h\u01b0 c\u1ea5u. \u00d4ng \u0111\u00e3 t\u1eebng d\u1ef1 ki\u1ebfn s\u1ebd vi\u1ebft v\u1ec1 cu\u1ed9c \u0111\u1eddi m\u00ecnh kh\u00f4ng?<\/em><\/strong><\/p>\n<p><strong>Ocean Vuong:<\/strong>\u00a0Kh\u00f4ng. B\u1ea3n th\u00e2n t\u00f4i kh\u00f4ng ngh\u0129 cu\u1ed9c \u0111\u1eddi m\u00ecnh \u0111\u1ee7 th\u00fa v\u1ecb \u0111\u1ec3 vi\u1ebft v\u1ec1 n\u00f3. Nh\u01b0ng sau \u0111\u00f3 t\u00f4i nh\u1eadn ra r\u1eb1ng m\u00ecnh \u0111\u00e3 b\u1ecb \u1ea3nh h\u01b0\u1edfng b\u1edfi h\u1ec7 th\u1ed1ng gi\u00e1o d\u1ee5c n\u00e0y v\u1edbi nh\u1eefng quan \u0111i\u1ec3m l\u1ec7ch l\u1ea1c c\u1ee7a n\u00f3. \u1ede tr\u01b0\u1eddng, ch\u00fang t\u00f4i d\u00e0nh c\u1ea3 th\u00e1ng \u0111\u1ec3 h\u1ecdc v\u1ec1 George Washington. Nh\u01b0ng khi n\u00f3i \u0111\u1ebfn Chi\u1ebfn tranh Vi\u1ec7t Nam, s\u00e1ch gi\u00e1o khoa ch\u1ec9 c\u00f3 hai trang. T\u00f4i t\u1ef1 h\u1ecfi: L\u00e0m sao t\u00f4i c\u00f3 th\u1ec3 s\u1ed1ng \u1edf \u0111\u1ea5t n\u01b0\u1edbc n\u00e0y l\u00e2u nh\u01b0 v\u1eady m\u00e0 kh\u00f4ng bi\u1ebft m\u00ecnh l\u00e0 ai?<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p><strong>ZEIT:<\/strong>\u00a0<strong><em>Cu\u1ed1n ti\u1ec3u thuy\u1ebft g\u1ea7n \u0111\u00e2y nh\u1ea5t c\u1ee7a \u00f4ng, Ho\u00e0ng \u0111\u1ebf c\u1ee7a ni\u1ec1m vui, k\u1ec3 v\u1ec1 s\u1ef1 sinh t\u1ed3n c\u1ee7a nh\u1eefng ng\u01b0\u1eddi ngh\u00e8o nh\u1ea5t \u1edf M\u1ef9 v\u00e0 s\u1ef1 \u0111o\u00e0n k\u1ebft c\u1ee7a h\u1ecd v\u00e0o cu\u1ed1i nh\u1eefng n\u0103m 2000. K\u1ec3 t\u1eeb \u0111\u00f3, s\u1ef1 \u0111o\u00e0n k\u1ebft n\u00e0y \u0111\u00e3 thay \u0111\u1ed5i ch\u01b0a?<\/em><\/strong><\/p>\n<p><strong>Vuong:<\/strong>\u00a0C\u00f3, n\u00f3 thay \u0111\u1ed5i d\u01b0\u1edbi nh\u1eefng \u0111i\u1ec1u ki\u1ec7n kh\u00f3 kh\u0103n. B\u1edfi v\u00ec M\u1ef9 kh\u00f4ng c\u00f3 m\u1ed9t th\u1ea7n tho\u1ea1i \u0111\u00e1ng ng\u01b0\u1ee1ng m\u1ed9 v\u1ec1 ng\u01b0\u1eddi ngh\u00e8o. \u1ede \u0111\u00e2y, ng\u01b0\u1eddi ta quan ni\u1ec7m r\u1eb1ng: N\u1ebfu b\u1ea1n ngh\u00e8o, \u0111\u00f3 l\u00e0 l\u1ed7i c\u1ee7a b\u1ea1n. B\u1ea1n l\u00e0 m\u1ed9t ng\u01b0\u1eddi k\u00e9m c\u1ecfi, b\u1ea1n \u0111\u00e1ng b\u1ecb ngh\u00e8o. V\u00ec v\u1eady, ngh\u00e8o \u0111\u00f3i l\u00e0 m\u1ed9t ki\u1ec3u tr\u1eebng ph\u1ea1t ch\u00ednh \u0111\u00e1ng. Ng\u01b0\u1ee3c l\u1ea1i, s\u1ef1 gi\u00e0u c\u00f3 t\u1ef1 \u0111\u1ed9ng \u0111\u01b0\u1ee3c \u0111\u00e1nh gi\u00e1 l\u00e0 t\u1ed1t. \u0110\u00f3 l\u00e0 l\u00fd do t\u1ea1i sao Trump c\u00f3 th\u1ec3 l\u00e0m t\u1ea5t c\u1ea3 nh\u1eefng g\u00ec \u00f4ng ta \u0111ang l\u00e0m: v\u00ec \u00f4ng ta l\u00e0 m\u1ed9t t\u1ef7 ph\u00fa.<\/p>\n<p><strong>\u00a0<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><strong>ZEIT:<\/strong>\u00a0<strong><em>\u0110\u00e2y c\u00f3 ph\u1ea3i l\u00e0 m\u1ed9t hi\u1ec7n t\u01b0\u1ee3ng c\u1ee7a M\u1ef9 kh\u00f4ng?<\/em><\/strong><\/p>\n<p><strong>Vuong:<\/strong>\u00a0Ngay c\u1ea3 ng\u01b0\u1eddi Ph\u00e1p c\u0169ng c\u00f3 m\u1ed9t c\u00e2u chuy\u1ec7n l\u1edbn v\u1ec1 s\u1ef1 kh\u1ed1n kh\u1ed5 v\u1edbi \u201e<em>Nh\u1eefng k\u1ebb kh\u1ed1n c\u00f9ng<\/em>\u00a0<em>(Les Mis\u00e9rables)\u201c<\/em>\u00a0c\u1ee7a Victor Hugo. Ho\u1eb7c b\u1ea1n h\u00e3y ngh\u0129 v\u1ec1 th\u1ea7n tho\u1ea1i Hy L\u1ea1p v\u00e0 nh\u00e2n v\u1eadt Teiresias: \u00d4ng l\u00e0 m\u1ed9t ng\u01b0\u1eddi \u0103n xin m\u00f9, m\u1ed9t k\u1ebb ngo\u00e0i l\u1ec1, nh\u01b0ng l\u1ea1i c\u00f3 kh\u1ea3 n\u0103ng ti\u00ean tri.<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p><strong>ZEIT:<\/strong>\u00a0<strong><em>\u00d4ng m\u00f4 t\u1ea3 t\u1ea7m quan tr\u1ecdng c\u1ee7a l\u00f2ng tr\u1eafc \u1ea9n trong c\u00e1c c\u1ed9ng \u0111\u1ed3ng b\u1ecb g\u1ea1t ra ngo\u00e0i l\u1ec1. Nh\u01b0ng li\u1ec7u s\u1ef1 \u0111o\u00e0n k\u1ebft v\u00e0 \u0111\u1ed3ng c\u1ea3m c\u00f3 \u0111\u1ee7 \u0111\u1ec3 t\u1ea1o ra m\u1ed9t phong tr\u00e0o qu\u1ea7n ch\u00fang c\u00f3 th\u1ec3 thay \u0111\u1ed5i t\u00ecnh h\u00ecnh kh\u00f4ng?<\/em><\/strong><\/p>\n<p><strong>Vuong:<\/strong>\u00a0Thu\u1eadt h\u00f9ng bi\u1ec7n c\u1ed5 \u0111\u1ea1i c\u00f3 ba h\u00ecnh th\u1ee9c \u0111\u1ec3 thuy\u1ebft ph\u1ee5c \u0111\u1ed1i th\u1ee7 tr\u00ean chi\u1ebfn tr\u01b0\u1eddng \u00fd t\u01b0\u1edfng: ng\u00f4n ng\u1eef, thu\u1eadt x\u1eed th\u1ebf v\u00e0 c\u1ea3m x\u00fac. L\u1eadp lu\u1eadn logic, h\u1ee3p l\u00fd ng\u00e0y nay h\u1ea7u nh\u01b0 kh\u00f4ng c\u00f2n thuy\u1ebft ph\u1ee5c \u0111\u01b0\u1ee3c ai n\u1eefa. \u0110i\u1ec1u n\u00e0y \u0111\u00e3 \u0111\u01b0\u1ee3c th\u1ea5y trong \u0111\u1ea1i d\u1ecbch Corona: C\u00e1c con s\u1ed1 v\u1eabn c\u00f2n tr\u1eebu t\u01b0\u1ee3ng. Y\u1ebfu t\u1ed1 quy\u1ebft \u0111\u1ecbnh l\u00e0 c\u1ea3m x\u00fac, t\u1ee9c l\u00e0\u00a0<em>Pathos<\/em>. \u0110\u1eb7c bi\u1ec7t trong ch\u00ednh tr\u1ecb, thu\u1eadt h\u00f9ng bi\u1ec7n ho\u1ea1t \u0111\u1ed9ng ch\u1ee7 y\u1ebfu th\u00f4ng qua c\u1ea3m x\u00fac.<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p><strong>ZEIT:<\/strong>\u00a0<strong><em>\u00d4ng c\u00f3 m\u1ed9t v\u00ed d\u1ee5 n\u00e0o v\u1ec1 \u0111i\u1ec1u \u0111\u00f3 kh\u00f4ng?<\/em><\/strong><\/p>\n<p><strong>Vuong:<\/strong>\u00a0Barack Obama r\u1ea5t gi\u1ecfi trong vi\u1ec7c n\u00e0y. \u00d4ng k\u1ec3 nh\u1eefng c\u00e2u chuy\u1ec7n, ch\u1eb3ng h\u1ea1n nh\u01b0 th\u1ebf n\u00e0y: T\u00f4i v\u1eeba \u1edf Detroit v\u00e0 g\u1eb7p m\u1ed9t th\u1ee3 s\u1eeda \u1ed1ng n\u01b0\u1edbc t\u00ean l\u00e0 Joe v\u00e0 gia \u0111\u00ecnh anh \u1ea5y. Anh \u1ea5y c\u00f3 ba \u0111\u1ee9a con v\u00e0 \u0111ang c\u1ed1 g\u1eafng t\u00ecm hi\u1ec3u xem n\u00ean l\u00e0m g\u00ec v\u00ec h\u1ecd c\u00f3 th\u1ec3 s\u1eafp v\u00f4 gia c\u01b0. V\u1edbi Obama, th\u00f4ng qua\u00a0<em>c\u1ea3m x\u00fac<\/em>\u00a0nh\u01b0 v\u1eady, m\u1ed9t nh\u00e2n v\u1eadt \u0111\u01b0\u1ee3c t\u1ea1o ra \u0111\u1ec3 truy\u1ec1n t\u1ea3i m\u1ed9t g\u00f3c nh\u00ecn. Ng\u01b0\u1eddi ta vi\u1ebft n\u00ean l\u1ecbch s\u1eed b\u1eb1ng\u00a0<em>c\u1ea3m x\u00fac<\/em>. Nh\u01b0ng ki\u1ec3u vi\u1ebft s\u1eed \u0111\u1ea7y c\u1ea3m x\u00fac n\u00e0y c\u0169ng ho\u1ea1t \u0111\u1ed9ng th\u00f4ng qua vi\u1ec7c g\u1ea1t b\u1edbt v\u00e0i chuy\u1ec7n: George Washington v\u01b0\u1ee3t s\u00f4ng Delaware \u2013 th\u1eadt tuy\u1ec7t v\u1eddi! Nh\u01b0ng kh\u00f4ng ai n\u00f3i v\u1ec1 vi\u1ec7c \u00f4ng ta s\u1edf h\u1eefu bao nhi\u00eau n\u00f4 l\u1ec7 n\u1eefa.<\/p>\n<p><strong>\u201c<em>L\u00e0m nh\u00e0 th\u01a1 c\u00f3 ngh\u0129a l\u00e0 m\u1ed9t ng\u01b0\u1eddi \u0103n xin gi\u1ecfi \u0103n n\u00f3i\u201d<\/em><\/strong><\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p><strong>ZEIT:<\/strong>\u00a0<strong><em>\u0110\u1ed1i v\u1edbi nhi\u1ec1u ng\u01b0\u1eddi, \u00f4ng l\u00e0 ti\u1ebfng n\u00f3i c\u1ee7a ng\u01b0\u1eddi lao \u0111\u1ed9ng nh\u1eadp c\u01b0 v\u00e0 bi\u1ebfn th\u00e0nh m\u1ed9t bi\u1ec3u t\u01b0\u1ee3ng. \u00d4ng \u1ee9ng x\u1eed v\u1edbi \u0111i\u1ec1u \u0111\u00f3 nh\u01b0 th\u1ebf n\u00e0o?<\/em><\/strong><\/p>\n<p><strong>Vuong:<\/strong>\u00a0T\u00f4i d\u00f9 sao c\u0169ng kh\u00f4ng th\u1ec3 ng\u0103n c\u1ea3n \u0111\u01b0\u1ee3c. V\u00ed d\u1ee5, b\u1ea3n th\u00e2n t\u00f4i \u0111\u00e3 t\u1eeb ch\u1ed1i Jack Kerouac trong m\u1ed9t th\u1eddi gian d\u00e0i v\u00ec nh\u1eefng m\u00e0n khoe khoang\u00a0<em>macho<\/em>\u00a0[2] c\u1ee7a \u00f4ng \u1ea5y v\u00e0 tuy\u00ean b\u1ed1 r\u1eb1ng m\u1ecdi con \u0111\u01b0\u1eddng \u0111\u1ec1u r\u1ed9ng m\u1edf \u1edf M\u1ef9. Sau \u0111\u00f3 t\u00f4i ngh\u0129: \u0110\u01b0\u1ee3c r\u1ed3i, \u0111\u00f3 l\u00e0 m\u1eb7t c\u00f4ng khai c\u1ee7a \u00f4ng \u1ea5y, nh\u01b0ng t\u00f4i c\u1ea7n t\u00ecm m\u1ed9t m\u1ed1i quan h\u1ec7 c\u00e1 nh\u00e2n v\u1edbi c\u00e1c v\u0103n b\u1ea3n c\u1ee7a \u00f4ng \u1ea5y. Khi t\u00f4i \u0111\u1ecdc \u00f4ng \u1ea5y, t\u00f4i nh\u1eadn ra: \u00d4i Ch\u00faa \u01a1i, Jack Kerouac gi\u1ed1ng t\u00f4i qu\u00e1! N\u1ec1n t\u1ea3ng lao \u0111\u1ed9ng v\u00e0 m\u1ed9t gia \u0111\u00ecnh b\u1ecb th\u1ed1ng tr\u1ecb b\u1edfi ph\u1ee5 n\u1eef! \u0110\u00f3 l\u00e0 l\u00fd do t\u1ea1i sao \u0111i\u1ec1u quan tr\u1ecdng \u0111\u1ed1i v\u1edbi t\u00f4i l\u00e0 t\u00f4i ch\u1ec9 n\u00f3i cho ch\u00ednh m\u00ecnh. Ch\u00fang ta c\u0169ng kh\u00f4ng ngh\u0129 r\u1eb1ng Hemingway \u0111\u1ea1i di\u1ec7n cho t\u1ea5t c\u1ea3 \u0111\u00e0n \u00f4ng da tr\u1eafng.<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p><strong>ZEIT:<\/strong>\u00a0<strong><em>Hai, nh\u00e2n v\u1eadt ch\u00ednh trong cu\u1ed1n ti\u1ec3u thuy\u1ebft g\u1ea7n \u0111\u00e2y nh\u1ea5t c\u1ee7a \u00f4ng, t\u00ecm ki\u1ebfm \u00fd ngh\u0129a cu\u1ed9c s\u1ed1ng. Anh \u1ea5y \u0111\u00e3 l\u00e0m h\u1ecfng s\u1ef1 nghi\u1ec7p h\u1ecdc v\u1ea5n c\u1ee7a m\u00ecnh, anh \u1ea5y mu\u1ed1n t\u1ef1 t\u1eed. Nh\u01b0ng sau \u0111\u00f3 anh \u1ea5y b\u1eaft \u0111\u1ea7u l\u00e0m vi\u1ec7c trong m\u1ed9t nh\u00e0 h\u00e0ng th\u1ee9c \u0103n nhanh. \u0110i\u1ec1u \u0111\u00f3 mang l\u1ea1i \u00fd ngh\u0129a nh\u01b0 th\u1ebf n\u00e0o?<\/em><\/strong><\/p>\n<p><strong>Vuong:<\/strong>\u00a0Khi l\u1edbn l\u00ean trong ngh\u00e8o kh\u00f3, b\u1ea1n tr\u1edf th\u00e0nh m\u1ed9t nh\u00e0 t\u01b0 t\u01b0\u1edfng hi\u1ec7n sinh r\u1ea5t s\u1edbm. M\u1ed9t ng\u00e0y n\u1ecd, m\u1eb9 t\u00f4i ng\u1ed3i xu\u1ed1ng c\u1ea1nh t\u00f4i v\u00e0 n\u00f3i: \u201cCon 16 tu\u1ed5i r\u1ed3i, con ph\u1ea3i \u0111i l\u00e0m \u1edf McDonald\u2019s ngay b\u00e2y gi\u1edd, v\u00ec \u0111\u00f3 l\u00e0 gi\u1ea5c m\u01a1 M\u1ef9 c\u1ee7a ch\u00fang ta.\u201d Cha m\u1eb9 gi\u00e0u c\u00f3 th\u00ec n\u00f3i v\u1edbi con c\u00e1i h\u1ecd: \u201cN\u00e0y, con h\u00e3y tr\u1edf th\u00e0nh b\u00e1c s\u0129!\u201d Nh\u01b0ng ch\u00fang t\u00f4i s\u1ed1ng trong m\u1ed9t c\u0103n h\u1ed9 x\u00e3 h\u1ed9i, v\u00e0 m\u1eb9 t\u00f4i gi\u1ea3i th\u00edch: \u201cN\u1ebfu thu nh\u1eadp chung c\u1ee7a ch\u00fang ta v\u01b0\u1ee3t qu\u00e1 m\u1ed9t s\u1ed1 ti\u1ec1n nh\u1ea5t \u0111\u1ecbnh, ch\u00fang ta s\u1ebd b\u1ecb \u0111u\u1ed5i ra ngo\u00e0i.\u201d Tr\u00ean th\u1ecb tr\u01b0\u1eddng t\u1ef1 do, ti\u1ec1n thu\u00ea nh\u00e0 c\u1ee7a ch\u00fang t\u00f4i s\u1ebd kh\u00f4ng c\u00f2n l\u00e0 400 \u0111\u00f4 la m\u00e0 l\u00e0 2.000 \u0111\u00f4 la, v\u00e0 ch\u00fang t\u00f4i s\u1ebd v\u00f4 gia c\u01b0. Nh\u01b0ng kh\u00f4ng ai\u00a0<em>mu\u1ed1n<\/em>\u00a0\u1edf trong nh\u00e0 h\u00e0ng th\u1ee9c \u0103n nhanh. M\u1ecdi ng\u01b0\u1eddi \u1edf \u0111\u00f3 \u0111\u1ec1u c\u00f3 m\u1ed9t gi\u1ea5c m\u01a1 th\u1ee9 hai m\u00e0 h\u1ecd kh\u00f4ng th\u1ec3 theo \u0111u\u1ed5i \u0111\u01b0\u1ee3c. Cu\u1ed9c s\u1ed1ng ri\u00eang c\u1ee7a h\u1ecd b\u1ecb tr\u00ec ho\u00e3n. \u0110\u00f3 l\u00e0 l\u00fd do t\u1ea1i sao t\u00f4i b\u1eaft \u0111\u1ea7u t\u1ef1 h\u1ecfi: L\u00e0m th\u1ebf n\u00e0o t\u00f4i tho\u00e1t kh\u1ecfi \u0111\u00e2y?<\/p>\n<p><strong>\u00a0<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><strong>ZEIT:<\/strong>\u00a0<strong><em>\u00d4ng \u0111\u00e3 l\u00e0m \u0111\u01b0\u1ee3c?.<\/em><\/strong><\/p>\n<p><strong>Vuong:<\/strong>\u00a0V\u00e2ng, nh\u01b0ng nh\u1eefng ng\u01b0\u1eddi c\u00f3 \u0111\u1eb7c quy\u1ec1n th\u1eadm ch\u00ed kh\u00f4ng c\u1ea7n ph\u1ea3i t\u1ef1 h\u1ecfi c\u00e2u h\u1ecfi n\u00e0y. Con \u0111\u01b0\u1eddng lu\u00f4n m\u1edf ra cho h\u1ecd. B\u00e2y gi\u1edd t\u00f4i bi\u1ebft th\u1ebf gi\u1edbi c\u1ee7a ng\u01b0\u1eddi gi\u00e0u, b\u1edfi v\u00ec \u0111\u00f4i khi t\u00f4i \u0111\u1ebfn th\u0103m c\u00e1c tr\u01b0\u1eddng t\u01b0 th\u1ee5c, v\u00e0 t\u00f4i ngh\u0129: Khoan \u0111\u00e3 \u2013 \u0111\u00e2y l\u00e0 m\u1ed9t con \u0111\u01b0\u1eddng \u0111\u00e3 \u0111\u01b0\u1ee3c v\u1ea1ch s\u1eb5n t\u1eeb m\u1eabu gi\u00e1o cho \u0111\u1ebfn Princeton hay Harvard. D\u00f9 \u1ea5n t\u01b0\u1ee3ng \u0111\u1ebfn \u0111\u00e2u, \u0111\u00f4i khi t\u00f4i coi nh\u1eefng con \u0111\u01b0\u1eddng s\u1ef1 nghi\u1ec7p nh\u01b0 v\u1eady l\u00e0 m\u1ed9t chi\u1ebfc l\u1ed3ng. \u1ede \u0111\u00f3 c\u0169ng c\u00f3 \u0111au kh\u1ed5.<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p><strong>ZEIT:<\/strong>\u00a0<strong><em>\u00d4ng c\u00f3 c\u1ea3m th\u1ea5y tho\u1ea3i m\u00e1i \u1edf nh\u1eefng n\u01a1i n\u00e0y kh\u00f4ng?<\/em><\/strong><\/p>\n<p><strong>Vuong:<\/strong>\u00a0T\u00f4i th\u1ea5y th\u1ebf gi\u1edbi n\u00e0y r\u1ea5t th\u00fa v\u1ecb. Kh\u00f4ng c\u00f3 g\u00ec c\u1ee7a con ng\u01b0\u1eddi l\u00e0 xa l\u1ea1 v\u1edbi t\u00f4i. T\u00f4i v\u1eabn c\u00f2n m\u1ed9t c\u00f4ng vi\u1ec7c gi\u00e1o s\u01b0, v\u00e0 m\u1ed9t ph\u1ea7n c\u00f4ng vi\u1ec7c c\u1ee7a t\u00f4i l\u00e0 xin ti\u1ec1n h\u1ecdc b\u1ed5ng cho sinh vi\u00ean c\u1ee7a ch\u00fang t\u00f4i. L\u00e0m nh\u00e0 th\u01a1 c\u00f3 ngh\u0129a l\u00e0 m\u1ed9t ng\u01b0\u1eddi \u0103n xin gi\u1ecfi \u0103n n\u00f3i. V\u00ec v\u1eady, t\u00f4i h\u00f2a m\u00ecnh v\u00e0o th\u1ebf gi\u1edbi n\u00e0y v\u00e0 mu\u1ed1n hi\u1ec3u n\u00f3.<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p><strong>ZEIT:<\/strong>\u00a0<strong><em>\u0110i\u1ec1u g\u00ec th\u00fa v\u1ecb v\u1ec1 cu\u1ed9c s\u1ed1ng c\u1ee7a ng\u01b0\u1eddi gi\u00e0u?<\/em><\/strong><\/p>\n<p><strong>Vuong:<\/strong>\u00a0D\u1ea5u v\u1ebft c\u1ee7a cu\u1ed9c s\u1ed1ng h\u00e0ng ng\u00e0y \u0111\u00e3 ho\u00e0n to\u00e0n bi\u1ebfn m\u1ea5t trong nh\u00e0 c\u1ee7a h\u1ecd. B\u1ea1n kh\u00f4ng bao gi\u1edd th\u1ea5y c\u00e2y ch\u1ed5i, nh\u00e0 b\u1ebfp th\u00ec \u1edf ph\u00f2ng sau, nh\u00e0 v\u1ec7 sinh d\u01b0\u1eddng nh\u01b0 ho\u00e0n to\u00e0n bi\u1ebfn m\u1ea5t \u2013 g\u1ea7n nh\u01b0 th\u1ec3 c\u01a1 th\u1ec3 kh\u00f4ng t\u1ed3n t\u1ea1i. Ngay c\u1ea3 m\u00f3n khai v\u1ecb (<em>hors d\u2019oeuvres)<\/em>\u00a0c\u0169ng ph\u1ea3i \u0111\u01b0\u1ee3c \u0103n h\u1ebft trong m\u1ed9t mi\u1ebfng! Ch\u00faa ph\u00e1n r\u1eb1ng, b\u1ea1n ph\u1ea3i nhai th\u1eadt nhi\u1ec1u v\u00e0 nh\u1eafc nh\u1edf nhau r\u1eb1ng b\u1ea1n l\u00e0 m\u1ed9t sinh v\u1eadt v\u1eadt ch\u1ea5t!<\/p>\n<p><strong><em>\u201cKhi t\u00f4i h\u1ecdc \u1edf New York, t\u00f4i \u0111\u00e3 v\u00f4 gia c\u01b0 m\u1ed9t th\u1eddi gian\u201d<\/em><\/strong><\/p>\n<p><em>Vuong lu\u00f4n l\u00e0m r\u00f5 trong cu\u1ed9c tr\u00f2 chuy\u1ec7n r\u1eb1ng \u00f4ng kh\u00f4ng mu\u1ed1n b\u1ecb coi l\u00e0 ng\u01b0\u1eddi gi\u1ea3i th\u00edch v\u1ec1 n\u01b0\u1edbc M\u1ef9. Tuy nhi\u00ean, th\u1ef1c t\u1ebf M\u1ef9 v\u00e0 s\u1ef1 \u0111au kh\u1ed5 c\u1ee7a ng\u01b0\u1eddi lao \u0111\u1ed9ng trong \u0111\u00f3 lu\u00f4n l\u00e0 ch\u1ee7 \u0111\u1ec1 c\u1ee7a \u00f4ng: \u201cHo\u00e0ng \u0111\u1ebf c\u1ee7a ni\u1ec1m vui\u201d k\u1ec3 v\u1ec1 m\u1ed9t thanh ni\u00ean c\u00f3 v\u1ea5n \u0111\u1ec1 v\u1ec1 ma t\u00fay, ng\u01b0\u1eddi ch\u0103m s\u00f3c m\u1ed9t ph\u1ee5 n\u1eef g\u1ed1c Litva m\u1eafc ch\u1ee9ng m\u1ea5t tr\u00ed nh\u1edb \u1edf m\u1ed9t th\u1ecb tr\u1ea5n nh\u1ecf \u1edf New England.<\/em><\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p><strong>ZEIT:<\/strong>\u00a0<strong><em>Nh\u00e2n v\u1eadt Grazina trong ti\u1ec3u thuy\u1ebft c\u1ee7a \u00f4ng d\u1ef1a tr\u00ean m\u1ed9t ng\u01b0\u1eddi quen c\u00f3 th\u1eadt c\u1ee7a \u00f4ng.<\/em><\/strong><\/p>\n<p><strong>Vuong:<\/strong>\u00a0Khi t\u00f4i h\u1ecdc \u1edf New York, t\u00f4i \u0111\u00e3 v\u00f4 gia c\u01b0 m\u1ed9t th\u1eddi gian v\u00e0 qu\u00e1 x\u1ea5u h\u1ed5 \u0111\u1ec3 tr\u1edf v\u1ec1 nh\u00e0. Th\u1ef1c ra ch\u00fang ta n\u00ean v\u01b0\u1ee3t qua n\u1ed7i x\u1ea5u h\u1ed5 nh\u01b0 v\u1eady. Nh\u01b0ng nh\u00ecn l\u1ea1i, \u0111\u00f3 l\u00e0 m\u1ed9t \u0111\u1ed9ng l\u1ef1c th\u00fac \u0111\u1ea9y t\u00f4i, v\u00e0 t\u00f4i \u1edf l\u1ea1i New York. \u1ede \u0111\u00f3 t\u00f4i g\u1eb7p Grazina v\u00e0 s\u1ed1ng v\u1edbi b\u00e0 \u1ea5y hai n\u0103m r\u01b0\u1ee1i \u0111\u1ec3 ch\u0103m s\u00f3c b\u00e0 \u1ea5y. Trong khi \u0111\u00f3, t\u00f4i ho\u00e0n th\u00e0nh b\u1eb1ng c\u1ea5p v\u1ec1 v\u0103n h\u1ecdc M\u1ef9 th\u1ebf k\u1ef7 19. T\u00f4i kh\u00f4ng c\u00f3 \u0111i\u1ec3m chung n\u00e0o v\u1edbi ng\u01b0\u1eddi ph\u1ee5 n\u1eef da tr\u1eafng n\u00e0y, nh\u01b0ng t\u1ea5t c\u1ea3 nh\u1eefng c\u01a1n \u00e1c m\u1ed9ng c\u1ee7a b\u00e0 \u1ea5y \u0111\u1ec1u gi\u1ed1ng nh\u01b0 nh\u1eefng c\u01a1n \u00e1c m\u1ed9ng m\u00e0 b\u00e0 t\u00f4i \u0111\u00e3 c\u00f3.<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p><strong>ZEIT:<\/strong>\u00a0<strong><em>\u0110\u00f3 l\u00e0 nh\u1eefng g\u00ec?<\/em><\/strong><\/p>\n<p><strong>Vuong:<\/strong>\u00a0Bom r\u01a1i \u1edf kh\u1eafp m\u1ecdi n\u01a1i nh\u01b0 nhau trong th\u1ebf k\u1ef7 20, d\u00f9 \u1edf Litva hay S\u00e0i G\u00f2n. \u0110\u00e2y th\u1ef1c s\u1ef1 l\u00e0 m\u1ed9t h\u00ecnh \u1ea3nh M\u1ef9 \u0111i\u1ec3n h\u00ecnh: Hai ng\u01b0\u1eddi, hai l\u1ee5c \u0111\u1ecba kh\u00e1c nhau, hai cu\u1ed9c chi\u1ebfn tranh, c\u00e1ch nhau 40 n\u0103m, ch\u00eanh l\u1ec7ch 60 tu\u1ed5i, v\u00e0 d\u01b0\u1edbi m\u1ed9t m\u00e1i nh\u00e0, h\u1ecd c\u1ed1 g\u1eafng v\u01b0\u1ee3t qua cu\u1ed9c s\u1ed1ng trong ngh\u00e8o kh\u00f3.<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p><strong>ZEIT<\/strong>:\u00a0<em>Nh\u01b0ng trong s\u00e1ch c\u1ee7a \u00f4ng, \u00f4ng c\u0169ng lu\u00f4n k\u1ec3 v\u1ec1 nh\u1eefng c\u01a1 h\u1ed9i th\u1ee9 hai m\u00e0 ng\u01b0\u1eddi ta c\u00f3 \u0111\u01b0\u1ee3c trong \u0111\u1eddi.<\/em><\/p>\n<p><strong>Vuong:<\/strong>\u00a0T\u1ea5t c\u1ea3 v\u0103n h\u1ecdc \u0111\u1ec1u mang l\u1ea1i c\u01a1 h\u1ed9i th\u1ee9 hai. N\u00f3 m\u00f4 ph\u1ecfng cu\u1ed9c s\u1ed1ng th\u1ef1c, nh\u01b0ng v\u1eabn l\u00e0 h\u01b0 c\u1ea5u, l\u00e0 m\u1ed9t s\u1ef1 ki\u1ebfn t\u1ea1o. \u0110\u00f3 l\u00e0 l\u00fd do t\u1ea1i sao c\u00e1c nh\u00e2n v\u1eadt c\u1ee7a t\u00f4i ki\u00ean nh\u1eabn v\u00e0 m\u1ea1nh m\u1ebd h\u01a1n nhi\u1ec1u so v\u1edbi ch\u00ednh t\u00f4i. T\u00f4i ch\u1ec9 c\u00f3 m\u1ed9t b\u1ea3n nh\u00e1p cho cu\u1ed9c \u0111\u1eddi m\u00ecnh, v\u00e0 t\u00f4i h\u1ebft l\u1ea7n n\u00e0y \u0111\u1ebfn l\u1ea7n kh\u00e1c l\u00e0m h\u1ecfng n\u00f3. Nh\u01b0ng c\u00e1c nh\u00e2n v\u1eadt c\u1ee7a t\u00f4i c\u00f3 b\u1ea3n nh\u00e1p cho m\u01b0\u1eddi hai cu\u1ed9c \u0111\u1eddi! Tuy nhi\u00ean, t\u00f4i th\u1ea5y \u00fd t\u01b0\u1edfng v\u1ec1 c\u01a1 h\u1ed9i th\u1ee9 hai c\u0169ng r\u1ea5t phi-M\u1ef9. M\u1eb7c d\u00f9 nh\u1eefng c\u00e2u chuy\u1ec7n v\u1ec1 nh\u1eefng ng\u01b0\u1eddi t\u1ef1 l\u00e0m m\u1edbi m\u00ecnh ho\u1eb7c \u0111\u01b0\u1ee3c t\u00e1i sinh nh\u01b0 m\u1ed9t ng\u01b0\u1eddi ho\u00e0n to\u00e0n kh\u00e1c \u0111\u01b0\u1ee3c t\u00f4n th\u1edd nh\u01b0 l\u00e1 b\u00f9a h\u1ed9 m\u1ec7nh. Nh\u01b0ng \u0111\u01b0\u1ee3c s\u1ed1ng nh\u01b0 th\u1ebf \u1edf M\u1ef9, c\u0169ng qu\u1ea3 l\u00e0 kh\u00f3 kh\u0103n.<\/p>\n<p><strong>\u00a0<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><strong>ZEIT:<\/strong>\u00a0<strong><em>T\u00ecnh h\u00ecnh hi\u1ec7n t\u1ea1i \u1edf M\u1ef9 c\u00f3 l\u00e0m \u00f4ng lo l\u1eafng kh\u00f4ng? Cu\u1ed1n ti\u1ec3u thuy\u1ebft \u0111\u1ea7u ti\u00ean c\u1ee7a \u00f4ng, \u201eTr\u00ean m\u1eb7t \u0111\u1ea5t ta t\u1ecfa s\u00e1ng ng\u1eafn ng\u1ee7i\u201c, g\u1ea7n \u0111\u00e2y \u0111\u00e3 b\u1ecb lo\u1ea1i kh\u1ecfi m\u1ed9t s\u1ed1 th\u01b0 vi\u1ec7n v\u00e0 khi\u1ebfn c\u00f4ng vi\u1ec7c c\u1ee7a \u00f4ng b\u1ecb ch\u00ednh tr\u1ecb h\u00f3a h\u01a1n bao gi\u1edd h\u1ebft.<\/em><\/strong><\/p>\n<p><strong>Vuong:<\/strong>\u00a0Vi\u1ec7c M\u1ef9 l\u00e0 m\u1ed9t \u1ea3o \u1ea3nh (<em>Fata Morgana<\/em>), vi\u1ec7c \u0111\u00f3 ch\u01b0a bao gi\u1edd r\u00f5 r\u00e0ng nh\u01b0 b\u00e2y gi\u1edd. Cho \u0111\u1ebfn hai ho\u1eb7c ba n\u0103m tr\u01b0\u1edbc, t\u00f4i ngh\u0129 \u0111\u00f3 ch\u1ec9 l\u00e0 nh\u1eefng tr\u01b0\u1eddng h\u1ee3p c\u00e1 bi\u1ec7t. C\u00f3 l\u1ebd c\u0169ng b\u1edfi v\u00ec t\u00f4i l\u00e0 m\u1ed9t \u0111\u1ee9a tr\u1ebb c\u1ee7a nh\u1eefng n\u0103m ch\u00edn m\u01b0\u01a1i, k\u1ef7 nguy\u00ean Clinton v\u1ec1 ti\u1ebfn b\u1ed9 v\u00e0 \u0111a v\u0103n h\u00f3a. Nh\u01b0ng b\u00e2y gi\u1edd, v\u00ed d\u1ee5, c\u00f3 m\u1ed9t nh\u00f3m b\u1ea3o th\u1ee7 c\u1ea5m s\u00e1ch v\u00e0 t\u1ef1 g\u1ecdi m\u00ecnh l\u00e0\u00a0<em>Moms for Liberty<\/em>\u00a0(C\u00e1c b\u00e0 m\u1eb9 v\u00ec T\u1ef1 do). B\u1ea1n kh\u00f4ng th\u1ec3 b\u1ecba ra nh\u1eefng \u0111i\u1ec1u nh\u01b0 v\u1eady. M\u1ef9 l\u00e0 m\u1ed9t \u0111\u1ea5t n\u01b0\u1edbc \u0111\u1ea7y r\u1eaby s\u1ef1 tr\u1edb tr\u00eau v\u00e0 m\u00e2u thu\u1eabn. Khi t\u00f4i \u0111i \u0111\u1ecdc s\u00e1ch \u1edf Texas, t\u00f4i \u0111\u00e3 g\u1eb7p g\u1ee1 c\u00e1c h\u1ecdc sinh 16, 17 tu\u1ed5i. \u0110\u00e1ng l\u1ebd h\u1ecd ch\u1ec9 n\u00ean l\u00e0 nh\u1eefng \u0111\u1ee9a tr\u1ebb v\u00e0 \u0111i xem phim. Thay v\u00e0o \u0111\u00f3, gi\u1edd \u0111\u00e2y h\u1ecd ng\u1ed3i tr\u00ean b\u1eadc th\u1ec1m tr\u01b0\u1edbc v\u0103n ph\u00f2ng c\u1ee7a Th\u1ed1ng \u0111\u1ed1c Ted Cruz v\u00e0 \u0111\u1ea5u tranh cho quy\u1ec1n \u0111\u01b0\u1ee3c \u0111\u1ecdc b\u1ea5t c\u1ee9 th\u1ee9 g\u00ec h\u1ecd mu\u1ed1n \u1edf m\u1ed9t \u0111\u1ea5t n\u01b0\u1edbc \u0111\u01b0\u1ee3c cho l\u00e0 t\u1ef1 do.<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p><strong>ZEIT:<\/strong>\u00a0<strong><em>L\u00e0m th\u1ebf n\u00e0o m\u00e0 m\u1ecdi vi\u1ec7c l\u1ea1i \u0111i \u0111\u1ebfn m\u1ee9c n\u00e0y?<\/em><\/strong><\/p>\n<p><strong>Vuong:<\/strong>\u00a0\u1ede M\u1ef9 c\u00f3 m\u1ed9t c\u1ea3m nh\u1eadn v\u00f4 th\u1ee9c v\u1ec1 ngu\u1ed3n g\u1ed1c c\u1ee7a ch\u00ednh m\u00ecnh. Nh\u1eefng ng\u01b0\u1eddi b\u1ea3o th\u1ee7 r\u1ea5t quan t\u00e2m \u0111\u1ebfn l\u1ecbch s\u1eed, nh\u01b0ng thi\u00ean v\u1ec1 m\u1eb7t t\u01b0\u1edfng t\u01b0\u1ee3ng. B\u1edfi v\u00ec b\u1ea1n th\u1ef1c s\u1ef1 kh\u00f4ng th\u1ec3 n\u00f3i v\u1ec1 George Washington m\u00e0 kh\u00f4ng n\u00f3i v\u1ec1 d\u00e2n s\u1ed1 b\u1ea3n \u0111\u1ecba. C\u00f3 g\u00ec \u0111\u00f3 \u0111\u00e3 x\u1ea3y ra ph\u1ea3i kh\u00f4ng? V\u00e2ng, v\u1ee5 di\u1ec7t ch\u1ee7ng h\u1ecd! Nhi\u1ec1u ng\u01b0\u1eddi b\u1ea3o th\u1ee7 c\u00f3 suy ngh\u0129 r\u1eb1ng h\u1ecd kh\u00f4ng \u0111\u1ebfn t\u1eeb \u0111\u00e2y, r\u1eb1ng h\u1ecd th\u1ef1c ch\u1ea5t l\u00e0 ng\u01b0\u1eddi nh\u1eadp c\u01b0 kh\u00f4ng c\u00f3 quy\u1ec1n \u0111\u1ed1i v\u1edbi \u0111\u1ea5t \u0111ai, v\u00ec v\u1eady h\u1ecd t\u1ea1o ra m\u1ed9t th\u1ea7n tho\u1ea1i. \u0110\u00e0i t\u01b0\u1edfng ni\u1ec7m Qu\u1ed1c gia Mount Rushmore v\u1edbi nh\u1eefng c\u00e1i \u0111\u1ea7u kh\u1ed5ng l\u1ed3 c\u1ee7a b\u1ed1n T\u1ed5ng th\u1ed1ng M\u1ef9 l\u00e0 m\u1ed9t tri\u1ec7u ch\u1ee9ng c\u1ee7a khao kh\u00e1t n\u00e0y \u2013 v\u00e0 \u0111\u1ed3ng th\u1eddi l\u00e0 bi\u1ec3u hi\u1ec7n c\u1ee7a m\u1ed9t\u00a0<em>h\u1ed9i ch\u1ee9ng ng\u01b0\u1eddi nh\u1ecf b\u00e9<\/em>\u00a0(<em>small man syndrome<\/em>). \u00dd t\u01b0\u1edfng\u00a0<em>\u201cL\u00e0m cho n\u01b0\u1edbc M\u1ef9 v\u0129 \u0111\u1ea1i tr\u1edf l\u1ea1i\u201d<\/em>\u00a0(<em>Make America Great Again<\/em>) c\u1ee7a Trump g\u00e2y say m\u00ea b\u1edfi v\u00ec n\u00f3 thay th\u1ebf k\u00fd \u1ee9c b\u1eb1ng ch\u1ee9ng m\u1ea5t tr\u00ed nh\u1edb: V\u00e2ng, ng\u01b0\u1eddi b\u1ea3n \u0111\u1ecba \u0111\u00e3 ch\u1ebft, nh\u01b0ng b\u00e2y gi\u1edd ch\u00fang ta c\u00f3 McDonald\u2019s! B\u1ea1n kh\u00f4ng bao gi\u1edd nghe n\u00f3i v\u1ec1 m\u1ed9t gi\u1ea5c m\u01a1 Vi\u1ec7t Nam hay m\u1ed9t gi\u1ea5c m\u01a1 Nigeria. T\u1ea1i sao ch\u1ec9 c\u00f3 M\u1ef9 c\u00f3 m\u1ed9t gi\u1ea5c m\u01a1? B\u1edfi v\u00ec c\u00e1i gi\u00e1 ph\u1ea3i tr\u1ea3 cho vi\u1ec7c th\u1ee9c t\u1ec9nh s\u1ebd v\u00f4 c\u00f9ng cao.<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p><strong>ZEIT:<\/strong><strong>\u00a0<em>\u0110\u00f3 c\u00f3 ph\u1ea3i l\u00e0 nhi\u1ec7m v\u1ee5 c\u1ee7a \u00f4ng v\u1edbi t\u01b0 c\u00e1ch l\u00e0 m\u1ed9t nh\u00e0 v\u0103n \u2013 nh\u00ecn xuy\u00ean qua m\u1eb7t ti\u1ec1n c\u1ee7a gi\u1ea5c m\u01a1 n\u00e0y?<\/em><\/strong><\/p>\n<p><strong>Vuong:<\/strong>\u00a0M\u1eb9 t\u00f4i k\u1ec3: B\u1ea5t c\u1ee9 khi n\u00e0o c\u00f3 m\u1ed9t con v\u1eadt b\u1ecb xe c\u00e1n n\u1eb1m tr\u00ean \u0111\u01b0\u1eddng, b\u00e0 \u0111\u1ec1u d\u1eebng l\u1ea1i v\u00e0 nh\u00ecn ch\u1eb1m ch\u1eb1m v\u00e0o n\u00f3. B\u00e0 r\u1ea5t lo l\u1eafng v\u1ec1 \u0111i\u1ec1u \u0111\u00f3, v\u00ec nh\u1eefng k\u1ebb gi\u1ebft ng\u01b0\u1eddi h\u00e0ng lo\u1ea1t \u0111\u01b0\u1ee3c cho l\u00e0 c\u0169ng l\u00e0m nh\u01b0 v\u1eady. T\u00f4i kh\u00f4ng th\u00edch l\u00e0m nh\u01b0 th\u1ebf, nh\u01b0ng t\u00f4i lu\u00f4n c\u00f3 m\u1ed9t s\u1ef1 say m\u00ea v\u1edbi m\u1eb7t t\u1ed1i. Ngay c\u1ea3 \u0110\u1ee9c Ph\u1eadt c\u0169ng n\u00f3i v\u1edbi c\u00e1c t\u00edn \u0111\u1ed3 c\u1ee7a m\u00ecnh r\u1eb1ng h\u1ecd n\u00ean c\u1ed1 g\u1eafng hi\u1ec3u c\u00e1c hi\u1ec7n t\u01b0\u1ee3ng c\u1ee7a th\u1ebf gi\u1edbi, d\u00f9 ch\u00fang t\u1ed1t hay x\u1ea5u.<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p><strong>ZEIT:<\/strong>\u00a0<strong><em>\u00d4ng l\u00e0 m\u1ed9t Ph\u1eadt t\u1eed Thi\u1ec1n t\u00f4ng \u0111ang th\u1ef1c h\u00e0nh.<\/em><\/strong><\/p>\n<p><strong>Vuong:<\/strong>\u00a0Ch\u00faa Gi\u00easu v\u00e0 nhi\u1ec1u nh\u00e0 ti\u00ean tri kh\u00e1c \u0111\u00e3 rao gi\u1ea3ng \u0111i\u1ec1u t\u1ed1t \u0111\u1eb9p v\u00e0 s\u1ee9c m\u1ea1nh c\u1ee7a l\u1eddi c\u1ea7u nguy\u1ec7n. Ngay c\u1ea3 \u0110\u1ee9c Ph\u1eadt, Ng\u00e0i k\u00eau g\u1ecdi ph\u1eadt t\u1eed, h\u00e3y c\u1ed1 g\u1eafng hi\u1ec3u nh\u1eefng hi\u1ec7n t\u01b0\u1ee3ng trong th\u1ebf gi\u1edbi. \u0110i\u1ec1u \u0111\u00f3 r\u1ea5t quan tr\u1ecdng \u0111\u1ed1i v\u1edbi t\u00f4i.<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p><strong>ZEIT:<\/strong>\u00a0<strong><em>\u0110\u00f3 c\u00f3 ph\u1ea3i l\u00e0 l\u00fd do t\u1ea1i sao \u00f4ng t\u1eebng n\u00f3i r\u1eb1ng \u00f4ng kh\u00f4ng nh\u00e2n h\u1eadu kh\u00f4ng?<\/em><\/strong><\/p>\n<p><strong>Vuong:<\/strong>\u00a0C\u00f3 l\u1ebd c\u00e1ch di\u1ec5n \u0111\u1ea1t n\u00e0y h\u01a1i thi\u1ebfu ch\u00ednh x\u00e1c. T\u00f4i lu\u00f4n b\u1ecb m\u00ea ho\u1eb7c b\u1edfi la b\u00e0n \u0111\u1ea1o \u0111\u1ee9c m\u00e0 con ng\u01b0\u1eddi d\u01b0\u1eddng nh\u01b0 \u0111\u01b0\u1ee3c sinh ra v\u1edbi n\u00f3. Ch\u1eafc ch\u1eafn t\u00f4i c\u0169ng c\u00f3 n\u00f3, nh\u01b0ng \u0111\u1ed1i v\u1edbi t\u00f4i n\u00f3 kh\u00f4ng ph\u1ea3i l\u00fac n\u00e0o c\u0169ng ho\u00e0n to\u00e0n r\u00f5 r\u00e0ng. \u1ede M\u1ef9, ch\u00fang ta th\u01b0\u1eddng t\u00f4n th\u1edd t\u00e0i n\u0103ng th\u1ec3 thao ho\u1eb7c ngh\u1ec7 thu\u1eadt, nh\u01b0ng t\u00f4i ngh\u0129 ch\u00fang ta n\u00ean t\u00f4n th\u1edd l\u00f2ng t\u1ed1t.<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p><strong>ZEIT:<\/strong>\u00a0<strong><em>Sau cu\u1ed1n ti\u1ec3u thuy\u1ebft th\u1ee9 hai, \u00f4ng \u0111\u00e3 ho\u00e0n th\u00e0nh vi\u1ec7c k\u1ec3 c\u00e2u chuy\u1ec7n c\u1ee7a m\u00ecnh ch\u01b0a?<\/em><\/strong><\/p>\n<p><strong>Vuong:<\/strong>\u00a0Hi\u1ec7n t\u1ea1i t\u00f4i kh\u00f4ng c\u00f2n g\u00ec trong m\u00ecnh n\u1eefa. Nh\u01b0ng t\u00f4i s\u1ebd kh\u00f4ng bao gi\u1edd ho\u00e0n th\u00e0nh. Hai cu\u1ed1n ti\u1ec3u thuy\u1ebft c\u1ee7a t\u00f4i v\u1ec1 c\u01a1 b\u1ea3n l\u00e0 hai b\u1ed9 trang ph\u1ee5c h\u00f3a trang gi\u1ea3 n\u1eef. C\u00e1i \u0111\u1ea7u ti\u00ean gi\u1ed1ng nh\u01b0 m\u1ed9t phi\u00ean b\u1ea3n ballad nghi\u00eam kh\u1eafc. C\u00e1i th\u1ee9 hai l\u1ea5p l\u00e1nh h\u01a1n, quy\u1ebfn r\u0169 h\u01a1n, m\u1ed9t m\u00e0n tr\u00ecnh di\u1ec5n h\u01a1i c\u01b0\u1eddng \u0111i\u1ec7u. H\u00e3y nh\u00ecn nh\u00e0 v\u0103n Ph\u00e1p Annie Ernaux, m\u1ed9t trong nh\u1eefng n\u1eef th\u1ea7n t\u01b0\u1ee3ng c\u1ee7a t\u00f4i. T\u00f4i kh\u00f4ng ngh\u0129 b\u00e0 \u1ea5y s\u1ebd c\u00f3 l\u00fac ho\u00e0n th\u00e0nh. Ngay c\u1ea3 khi b\u00e0 \u1ea5y c\u00f3 300 n\u0103m, b\u00e0 \u1ea5y s\u1ebd kh\u00f4ng ng\u1eebng k\u1ec3 v\u1ec1 ch\u00ednh m\u00ecnh. T\u00f4i th\u1ea5y \u00fd ngh\u0129 \u0111\u00f3 th\u1eadt \u0111\u1eb9p.<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>Interview:\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/www.zeit.de\/autoren\/M\/Yasmine_MBarek\/index\">Yasmine M\u2019Barek<\/a>,\u00a0Fotografie:\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/www.zeit.de\/autoren\/H\/Jonas_Holthaus\/index\">Jonas Holthaus<\/a>,<\/p>\n<p><strong><em>DIE ZEIT, 13 Th\u00e1ng 10, 2025<\/em><\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Bi\u00ean d\u1ecbch: <strong><em>Nguy\u1ec5n Nh\u1eadt L\u1ec7<\/em><\/strong><\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>Ngu\u1ed3n:<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.zeit.de\/kultur\/literatur\/2025-10\/ocean-vuong-der-kaiser-der-freude-usa-arbeiterklasse\/komplettansicht\">https:\/\/www.zeit.de\/kultur\/literatur\/2025-10\/ocean-vuong-der-kaiser-der-freude-usa-arbeiterklasse\/komplettansicht<\/a><\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>[1] Fata Morgana<\/p>\n<p>[2] \u201cMacho\u201d l\u00e0 t\u1eeb ti\u1ebfng T\u00e2y Ban Nha ch\u1ec9 ng\u01b0\u1eddi \u0111\u00e0n \u00f4ng th\u1ec3 hi\u1ec7n nam t\u00ednh m\u1ed9t c\u00e1ch khoa tr\u01b0\u01a1ng, m\u1ea1nh m\u1ebd, \u0111\u00f4i khi l\u00e0 hung h\u0103ng ho\u1eb7c coi th\u01b0\u1eddng ph\u1ee5 n\u1eef.<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>[\/et_pb_text][\/et_pb_column][\/et_pb_row][\/et_pb_section]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>[et_pb_section fb_built=&#8221;1&#8243; admin_label=&#8221;section&#8221; _builder_version=&#8221;3.0.47&#8243;][et_pb_row admin_label=&#8221;row&#8221; _builder_version=&#8221;3.0.48&#8243; background_size=&#8221;initial&#8221; background_position=&#8221;top_left&#8221; background_repeat=&#8221;repeat&#8221;][et_pb_column type=&#8221;4_4&#8243; _builder_version=&#8221;3.0.47&#8243; parallax=&#8221;off&#8221; parallax_method=&#8221;on&#8221;][et_pb_text admin_label=&#8221;Text&#8221; _builder_version=&#8221;3.6&#8243; background_size=&#8221;initial&#8221; background_position=&#8221;top_left&#8221; background_repeat=&#8221;repeat&#8221;] Yasmine M\u2019Barek ph\u1ecfng v\u1ea5n Ocean Vuong, Die ZEIT ng\u00e0y 13.10.2025 Bi\u00ean d\u1ecbch: Nguy\u1ec5n Nh\u1eadt L\u1ec7 \u00a0 \u1ede Hoa K\u1ef3 c\u00f3 quan ni\u1ec7m ph\u1ed5 bi\u1ebfn l\u00e0: Ai ngh\u00e8o th\u00ec \u0111\u00f3 l\u00e0 l\u1ed7i c\u1ee7a h\u1ecd. 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